My work is permanently work from home. Our productivity is through th roof and staff morale is at an all time high. We may reduce our footprint in the office buildings we occupy.
I've already gone to the office to gather my things. Other than my na plate, there's no indication I'm assigned to the cubicle.
Daniel Traechin
Daniel,
What type of work do you do?
Sorry, I just got this message - not sure why. I did then, and still do, network engineering. Still working from home too. At this point, I can't imagine going back.
Going back to work was hard to do, and I would imagine
going back to an office would be as well. I prefer it
over zoom calls, and feel I'm in much better health all
around than I was during that extended time off
personally. [...]
The Godfather wrote to calcmandan <=-
I didn't work from home but had sold my business right before COVID, so
I spent a couple of years at home. Most of that time was spent helping
my kids with their homework (as their schools were closed) and or
playing around on BBSes while drinking too much beer.
Going back to work was hard to do, and I would imagine going back to an office would be as well. I prefer it over zoom calls, and feel I'm in much better health all around than I was during that extended time off personally. BUT, I miss being home. I see far less of my kids and
have far less time to spend on hobbies or just being outdoors. Enjoy
the ride!
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Sorry, I just got this message - no
t sure why. I did then, and still d
o, network engineering. Still worki
ng from home too. At this point, I
can't imagine going back.
slacker wrote to calcmandan <=-
Software Engineer here. I've been remote for > 10 years now. My job originally had a number of remote workers but allowed full time remote work for everyone after covid. We still have a downsized central office for those who want to come in, but all the teams are spread across the globe so it doesn't really make muc sense to do so. I don't think I
have a coworker within 100 miles of me on my team.
On 14 Jul 2020, The Godfather said the following...
Sorry, I just got this message - not sure why. I did then, and still do, network engineering. Still working from home too. At this point, I can't imagine going back.
D
... Classic: A book which people praise but don't read. - Mark Twain
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Working from home sounds dreadful. You must be single or childless?
I would miss the interaction with people too much. Do you get lonely?
Working from home sounds dreadful. You must be single or childless? I would miss the interaction with people too much. Do you get lonely? I hope you hav a great choice of of restaurants and clubs near you so you can get out of th house some. It's too busy here for me to even consider working from home.
Working from home sounds dreadful. You must be single or childless? I would miss the interaction with people too much. Do you get lonely? I hope
Sorry, I just got this message - not sure why. I did then, and still network engineering. Still working from home too. At this point, I ca imagine going back.
It's ok, I don't read messages daily, to many to keep track of and I get too tired early these days.
I didn't work from home but had sold my business right before COVID, so I spent a couple of years at home. Most of that time was spent helping my kids with their homework (as their schools were closed) and or playing around on BBSes while drinking too much beer.
Going back to work was hard to do, and I would imagine going back to an office would be as well. I prefer it over zoom calls, and feel I'm in much better health all around than I was during that extended time off personally. BUT, I miss being home. I see far less of my kids and have far less time to spend on hobbies or just being outdoors. Enjoy the
ride!
On 14 Jul 2020, The Godfather said the following...
Sorry, I just got this message - not sure why. I did then, and still do, network engineering. Still working from home too. At this point, I can't imagine going back.
D
... Classic: A book which people praise but don't read. - Mark Twain
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Working from home sounds dreadful. You must be single or childless? I would miss the interaction with people too much. Do you get lonely? I
hope you have a great choice of of restaurants and clubs near you so you can get out of the house some. It’s too busy here for me to even consider working from home. What’s a day like for you? I am just curious. If you don’t answer I will not take it personally.
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going to an office to work and interacting with the people there, and I definitely would have felt really lonely working from home. These days, I'd probably like working from home more often.
Re: Re: Stage 4 COVID
By: Rixter to calcmandan on Tue Dec 17 2024 12:10:21
Hi, Rixter.
You weren't asking me but I really don't understand this take? I have worked from home for nearly 2 decades and I'm married with a kid (well, he's basically an adult now but I worked at home since he was a baby).
I wouldn't try to work from the kitchen table but working out of my study is absolutely fine. My current employer is basically 100% remote for everyone, unless you have a customer meeting or once a month for a team catchup.
Possibly this is the difference.... I can take or leave people, mostly leave :) I have never, ever felt lonely through remote working. Between constant video calls and the odd face to face meeting I've no reason to feel isolated, plus until recently my wife was in the house most of the day so we could eat or pop out and walk the dog together over lunch.
Honestly I get nothing done in the office, everyone is too busy yapping.
BobW
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When the gyms were closed I got fatter. Right before lockdown I had
gotten closer to a six pack than ever in my life.
Read above. Working from home doesn't make me a hermit. Far from it.
I could say alot more but I'd bore you. Anyway.
Working from home sounds dreadful. You must be single or childless? I would miss the interaction with people too much. Do you get lonely?
niter3 wrote to calcmandan <=-
We also have 3 kids that have after school events and such.
Re: Re: Stage 4 COVID
By: Rixter to calcmandan on Tue Dec 17 2024 12:10 pm
I'm not the person you were replying to, but I don't have kids at home, so I'm able to work from home without too much distraction. There are times when I like working from home, and at my current job, there are days when I don't interact with anyone face-to-face anyway, so the commute sometimes doesn't seem worth it. I generally do like interacting with people at work, and in the past, I generally have had at least a couple people I always enjoyed interacting with including non-work related things. At my current job though, although I tend to have good interactions with people, there hasn't been anyone at work I interact with in depth aside from work-related things (at least, there hasn't been a whole lot of interaction about non-work things).
I got divorced about 4 years ago, and at the time, I really enjoyed going to an office to work and interacting with the people there, and I definitely would have felt really lonely working from home. These days, I'd probably like working from home more often.
Nightfox
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I have been working from home since the start of covid. At times it can seem very isolating but I have adjusted and would never return to the office. Not having the distraction of co-workers around me, not seeing any of the goofy office politics that seem the be in every workplace and staying focused on tasks are all positives. The positives far outweigh the negatives for me. I know it's not for everyone but I like it and my employer only wants me to stay focused on work and not silly co-worker stuff.
Thanks, it seems alien to me I had to ask. I am glad it works for you. I know of one other person that described working part time from home. I do work notes from my house, and there has been office chatter about going 30 % remote in 2025. So this thread got me interested. Have a great day.
I only have 4 more years until retirement and talk at work has started into the 30 % remote work mandate. I worked for this company 25 years and
Also, I've heard companies that have office space tend to want their employees there at least some of the time, to justify the expense of
leasing an office.
I am someone who was very skeptical about working from home. When they
first sent us home during COVID, I didn't think it would last long.
However, it really worked pretty well. The folks who were productive continued to be so. I worked in a "cube farm" so I personally found it a lot easier to get most tasks done without the interruptions (intentional and accidental) of being in the office around others... especially those who
see being in the office as time to socialize.
I was starting to burn out some but, with not having to go into the office every day, I got to where I didn't dread "going to work" most days. Considering that we were in the middle of a pandemic, being able to say my mental health was somehow better is a plus.
I do live alone. I did not get lonely. ;)
I also found that I ate a little better as I had time to make my lunches at lunchtime rather than carrying a sack lunch.
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Also, I've heard companies that have office space tend to want their
employees there at least some of the time, to justify the expense of
leasing an office.
Sounds like a case of glass half empty or half full..
Instead, they should justify how much money they would save if they *didn't* have to lease office space, or pay any of the utilities. I'm surprise more businesses haven't done this, to be honest.
Dumas Walker wrote to RIXTER <=-
However, it really worked pretty well. The folks who were productive continued to be so. I worked in a "cube farm" so I personally found it
a lot easier to get most tasks done without the interruptions
(intentional and accidental) of being in the office around others... especially those who see being in the office as time to socialize.
I was starting to burn out some but, with not having to go into the
office every day, I got to where I didn't dread "going to work" most
days. Considering that we were in the middle of a pandemic, being able
to say my mental health was somehow better is a plus.
I also found that I ate a little better as I had time to make my
lunches at lunchtime rather than carrying a sack lunch.
Nightfox wrote to Rixter <=-
Interesting that they're mandating some amount of remote work. I've
been hearing that especially since the covid lockdowns have passed,
many companies want their employees to return to the office. I've
heard some say one reason for that is companies that lease office space want to justify the expense of leasing that office space, so they want their employees to use it.
At the previous company I worked for, they renovated all the cubes to be half-height walls. So less privacy, more interruptions/distractions.
And then Management wondered why there was lower productivity.
At the previous company I worked for, they renovated all the cubes to be half-height walls. So less privacy, more interruptions/distractions. Andhe
Management wondered why there was lower productivity.
reI was starting to burn out some but, with not having to go into the office every day, I got to where I didn't dread "going to work" most days. Considering that we were in the middle of a pandemic, being able to say my mental health was somehow better is a plus.
For me, my waist line was better. My company had a lunch room filled with
junk food. I won't buy the stuff for my home. So no junk food availableean
I don't eat any junk food.
I only have 4 more years until retirement and talk at work has started intoh
30 % remote work mandate. I worked for this company 25 years and this is the
ndI only have 4 more years until retirement and talk at work has started into the 30 % remote work mandate. I worked for this company 25 years
Interesting that they're mandating some amount of remote work. I've been hearing that especially since the covid lockdowns have passed, many companies want their employees to return to the office. I've heard some say one reason for that is companies that lease office space want to justify the expense of leasing that office space, so they want their employees to use it.
Nightfox wrote to Accession <=-
Instead, they should justify how much money they would save if they *didn't* have to lease office space, or pay any of the utilities. I'm surprise more businesses haven't done this, to be honest.
I've heard of some companies doing that. Of the ones that continue to lease office spaces, I think the biggest reasons are: - The employer
feels that it's best to have people working together in person, as it
can be easier to talk to people when you can walk over to where they
sit.
Some companies might also some perks to their employees when they have
a physical office building. Depending on the size of the company, they might offer things like free drinks (or maybe just free coffee), an on-site cafe, and whatnot. If they choose not to lease a building,
then naturally they'd also save money by not being able to offer these perks anymore. Some people could complain that a company is being
cheap by opting out of offering such things to their employees.
Dr. What wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
At the previous company I worked for, they renovated all the cubes to
be half-height walls. So less privacy, more
interruptions/distractions. And then Management wondered why there was lower productivity.
For me, my waist line was better. My company had a lunch room filled
with free junk food. I won't buy the stuff for my home. So no junk
food available means I don't eat any junk food.
I did like my time working for $LARGE_INTERNET_AUCTION_SITE. They had a beautiful campus with 2 large cafes, a gym, lots of walking paths, outdoor meeting spaces and a pond. They still haven't seemed to have rebounded from Covid, I drove by there recently and the gates to the parking lot were closed - it looked like you needed to show your badge to a security guy to get in.
At the previous company I worked for, they renovated all the cubes to be
half-height walls. So less privacy, more interruptions/distractions.
And then Management wondered why there was lower productivity.
I actually liked cubes with high walls. Less distractions, more space to personalize.
Read above. Working from home doesn't make me a hermit. Far from it.
I could say alot more but I'd bore you. Anyway.
I wish I could say the same, but just as Covid hit I moved into a new
role at my job. This role is very demanding and requires a lot of over time. I'm also in the mits of renovating a new home we purchased, so any extra time I have now is on the house.
We also have 3 kids that have after school events and such.
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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dr. What <=-
I actually liked cubes with high walls. Less distractions, more space
to personalize.
Yeah, my current company has the kitchen stocked with goodies. I
started bringing in carrots and celery to munch on.
spaces because it encourages communication in the team. But he has
also been working from home probably more than anyone else on the
team..
At the previous company I worked for, they renovated all the cubes to
be half-height walls. So less privacy, more
interruptions/distractions. And then Management wondered why there was lower productivity.
I actually liked cubes with high walls. Less distractions, more space
to personalize.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
That sounds like a good office space. I worked a contract for them for
a few months in 2020, and I would have been working at their Portland
OR office
covid. I ended up getting a direct-hire job offer from another
company, which I accepted (even though it paid a little less) because
it was direct-hire, whereas my $LARGE_INTERNET_AUCTION_SITE job was a contract that would have ended just a few months later.
Nightfox
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Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I tend to like that too. I feel like it's my own personal office
space. I imagine that's what cubicles were designed for, but now, it seems like it's becoming more popular to have low-wall open office
spaces. One of my co-workers says he actually likes the low-wall open spaces because it encourages communication in the team. But he has
also been working from home probably more than anyone else on the
team..
Dr. What wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I wish I could have done that. But I hate celery and carrots are only edible when soaked in the hot juices of meat for a couple of hours.
niter3 wrote to Dr. What <=-
At the previous company I worked for, they renovated all the cubes to be half-height walls. So less privacy, more interruptions/distractions.
And then Management wondered why there was lower productivity.
Stories like this just piss me off. :) Dumb ass people.
Dumas Walker wrote to RIXTER <=-
Even when we were on COVID work from home full time, you were allowed
to come into the office if you wanted -- so long as you were not ill.
Some people did that because they had a house full of other people who were also stuck in the house, and some others did it because they
needed a routine to stick to.
My counterpart in their office was as Portlandy as a Portlandian could get - beard, flannel shirt in his badge photo/avatar, and his email closing was:
"Dig it,
<his name>"
Or, just "Dig."
And, they had a conference room called "Portlandia"!
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I tend to like that too. I feel like it's my own personal office
space. I imagine that's what cubicles were designed for, but now, it seems like it's becoming more popular to have low-wall open office
spaces. One of my co-workers says he actually likes the low-wall open spaces because it encourages communication in the team. But he has
also been working from home probably more than anyone else on the
team..
The last office I worked in before Covid was an open floor plan, but people sent slack messages to each other!
I think if you want a hybrid office plan, you want to minimize the
office chatter and funnel it into collab/public areas where you could
join remote employees into a call. The open office plan meant to foster open communication does so at a disadvantage of not including your
100% remote employees as well as the employees that work a hybrid schedule.
USB powered Crockpot - Problem Solved. Stew by noon. You'll need to
get a waiver from your vegan/vegetarian office mates, though.
but gets back to my idea of a hoteling office, where you have a fraction
of the seats, just enough to seat everyone you'd expect to come in at
the same time.
The open office plan meant to foster
open communication does so at a disadvantage of not including your
100% remote employees as well as the employees that work a hybrid
schedule.
I'm very glad that I don't work in an "office", or "remotely". Seems
very likely to get tedious and full of drama.
USB powered Crockpot - Problem Solved. Stew by noon. You'll need to
get a waiver from your vegan/vegetarian office mates, though.
One of the lead hands at work has one of these. It runs on USB and she
plugs it into her work car if she's on the road or into her computer if
at the office.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
:) Sometimes I've wondered if I should go full hipster/Portland and
grow a full beard, wear a hat (maybe a flat cap) and a scarf and
glasses, buy a MacBook, and hang out with it at Starbucks or perhaps independent coffee shops nobody has heard of, and buy a Subaru. I used
to drive a Volkswagen though, which I think is about as Portland
hipster as driving a Subaru.
Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
The one thing that would bother me about "hoteling," especially during
the pandemic, would be who cleans up the cubes in between, and how much disinfecting do they do. :O
Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
Yeah, the open and short-wall plans really show their weaknesses when a lot of people are all on different phone/conference calls.
Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
I found that "in the office" was more likely to do so than working
remote. The gossips and drama lovers, who could no longer just drop by someone else's cube, either found some other ways to fill their
goof-off time or just never decided to loop me into their foolishness (thank goodness!).
Dumas Walker wrote to TINY <=-:D
LOL, I thought he just made that up until you confirmed they exist! :O
LOL, I thought he just made that up until you confirmed theyI thought I did make it up! I had no idea one existed, thought it was
like that USB toaster gag gift box a couple of years ago.
Yeah, the open and short-wall plans really show their weaknesses when a lot of people are all on different phone/conference calls.
At my last office, we had 4 "phone booths" for people to take calls in,
and used them religiously. It made the space really workable.
Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
I might add that not having a desk phone was really important at this
site as, for some very weird reason, it was in a cellular dead spot!
I might add that not having a desk phone was really important at this site as, for some very weird reason, it was in a cellular dead spot!
Back before wi-fi calling became a thing, AT&T set up microcells in our office space. It was nice, we got 5 bars in the office instead of
*maybe* 1 1/2.
I had a femtocell at home, a little device that hung off my wired
network and did the same thing, but for 5 phones max.
Now, everyone relies on wi-fi calling. I did like the femtocell, though. Sometimes my phone sticks with cell calling when it should be using wifi.
Back before wi-fi calling became a thing, AT&T set up microcells in our office space. It was nice, we got 5 bars in the office instead of *maybe* 1 1/2.
Now, everyone relies on wi-fi calling. I did like the femtocell, though. Sometimes my phone sticks with cell calling when it should be using wifi.
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