• Proxmox -> ESXi or Hyper-V

    From Warpslide@21:3/110 to All on Thursday, May 22, 2025 11:14:20
    Ok, I'm sure Proxmox is great & all, but doesn't seem to work well on my NUC.

    The network will just drop on the host randomly. We were watching something off of the Plex server yesterday when we see "connection to the server lost" and then suddenly all of the content just disappears. Try to log into Proxmox to see what's up and lo & behold I'm once again unable to log into the web interface.

    Log into the box directly and it's responsive, run a few commands and
    all of the VMs are up, but there's no network connectivity. Reboot the host and all comes back online. I got a USB3 NIC from Amazon & disabled the internal NIC, that seemed to work for a week & then same thing happens.

    Reading online it looks like Proxmox & Intel NUCs don't play very well together, or at least haven't since version 8. My specific model is NUC10i7FNH.

    It looks like ESXi has a free version again, so considering going back to
    that as it ran fine for years without any issues. I also have a Windows Server 2019 license (which might also work to activate Server 2022) that I could use to run Hyper-V instead.

    Does anyone have any thoughts?


    Jay

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Warpslide on Thursday, May 22, 2025 09:00:49
    Warpslide wrote to All <=-

    Reading online it looks like Proxmox & Intel NUCs don't play very well together, or at least haven't since version 8. My specific model is NUC10i7FNH.

    That's weird - Proxmox is essentially Debian with a web front-end,
    you'd think the upstream distros would see similar issues?

    ESXi is a good platform, I found the hardware compatibility sketchy -
    and I've got a crap homelab at home, so I didn't even bother setting it
    up. I had 4-5 year old servers fall off VMWare's HCL a couple of years
    ago, which didn't make sense.




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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to Warpslide on Thursday, May 22, 2025 18:54:12
    Hey Warpslide!

    On Thu, 22 May 2025 11:14:20 -0400, you wrote:

    It looks like ESXi has a free version again, so considering going back
    to that as it ran fine for years without any issues. I also have a
    Windows Server 2019 license (which might also work to activate Server
    2022) that I could use to run Hyper-V instead.

    You may want to read up on what this free version offers now. I don't think it's anything like ESXi was, to be honest.

    Does anyone have any thoughts?

    XCP-ng is another option. While it doesn't support containers, I'm sure it's great at running VMs. One thing I liked about XCP-ng over Proxmox was that it had a web interface as well as a console interface (rather than just a login prompt and a bunch of manual commands).

    If you have a different machine (like a desktop where you can run Virtualbox on it), you can spin up any hypervisor you want to test out, and make your next decision based on something /you/ like, rather than something you were told to like. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Warpslide on Thursday, May 22, 2025 22:05:21
    It looks like ESXi has a free version again, so considering going back to that as it ran fine for years without any issues. I also have a Windows Server 2019 license (which might also work to activate Server 2022) that
    I could use to run Hyper-V instead.

    If ESXi is what works for you and your hardware, go that way. For ME, and my last-last-gen enterprise server hardware, Proxmox is the tits. It works, has plenty of expandability - and is the clear choice... but I don't care if you run Windows, Linux or MacOS... run what works for YOU. You made me want to play around w/ ESXi on my new Dell r730xd - and maybe I will. While I swear by Proxmox and Proxmox Backup Server, maybe something else works for you...

    And thats fine. Run what you love. GO!



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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Warpslide on Friday, May 23, 2025 06:23:28
    It looks like ESXi has a free version again, so considering going back to

    They do? I thought they were done.

    What are the limitations?

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to paulie420 on Friday, May 23, 2025 17:12:57
    paulie420 wrote to Warpslide <=-

    YOU. You made me want to play around w/ ESXi on my new Dell r730xd -
    and maybe I will. While I swear by Proxmox and Proxmox Backup Server, maybe something else works for you...

    I started off on ESXi/vSphere, and after running proxmox for a while, I
    don't think you get much more with either package with one system. If
    you have enough systems for a cluster, managing it all through vCenter,
    setting up high availability, really using vSphere, it's pretty cool.

    I haven't had enough systems to look at setting up proper clustering
    with Proxmox, however. For my needs, being able to manually move a
    server to another node for maintenance is good enough.

    I keep wanting to get 3 1l USFF systems and create a proper cluster,
    but mine works well enough and I hate replace crap that works...



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, May 23, 2025 17:41:17
    YOU. You made me want to play around w/ ESXi on my new Dell r730xd - and maybe I will. While I swear by Proxmox and Proxmox Backup Server, maybe something else works for you...

    I started off on ESXi/vSphere, and after running proxmox for a while, I
    don't think you get much more with either package with one system. If
    you have enough systems for a cluster, managing it all through vCenter,
    setting up high availability, really using vSphere, it's pretty cool.

    I have 3 Proxmox nodes, so I run enough servers that that might be a bonus. I currently don't have HA but its on my timeline... I find that often what we start with is just what we always wanna use in the future.



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