because no one else does. Its a very simple concept. Delta Chat uses
your existing IMAP based email server, even something like gmail, to
store and send your IM. The chats are stored in an encrypted folder in your email server in which only the Delta Chat app can read. It seems to me would be a great way to decentralize instant messaging without re-inventing the wheel, as email servers are a dime a dozen. Has anyone here ever taken a look at Delta Chat, any thoughts?

I had not heard of it, before this, and now am wondering if I could make it work with MxRoute's servers.

Though then I might start using more space on there than I should.

But it would be nice, and I suppose messaging is one place where I might be able to convince a person or two that I chat with a lot.

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Hello Adept!

** On Monday 12.01.26 - 16:23, Adept wrote to neoshock:

because no one else does. Its a very simple concept. Delta Chat uses
your existing IMAP based email server, even something like gmail, to
store and send your IM. The chats are stored in an encrypted folder in
your email server in which only the Delta Chat app can read. It seems to
me would be a great way to decentralize instant messaging without
re-inventing the wheel, as email servers are a dime a dozen. Has anyone
here ever taken a look at Delta Chat, any thoughts?

I did not seem to get neoshock's original post, btw.

I had not heard of it, before this, and now am wondering if I could make
it work with MxRoute's servers.

I'd recommend you use a new email address for deltachat.

Initially, I was using it with an existing email address that
everyone else knows. Managing the app and keeping the
deltachat messages from downloading off the servers *BEFORE* I
remembered to run the deltahat app was fraught with error.

Though then I might start using more space on there than I should.

deltachat is afterall "chat via email". I wouldn't use it to
keep something on the system in perpetuity.

I'd use Session's "Note to Self" for really private stuff like
a pw string, or even Telegram's "Saved messages" or the odd
personal note.

But it would be nice, and I suppose messaging is one place
where I might be able to convince a person or two that I
chat with a lot.

The key is privacy and "for your eyes only". Session, Jami,
Briar, and Simplex are excellent for that.


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I did not seem to get neoshock's original post, btw.

Oh, that's because it was sent January 16th, 2025, and I didn't quite notice which year I was in, what with the re-scan.

So it's possible I saw the message a year ago, and forgot. But also possible that I skipped a bunch as part of catching up, at some point.

I'd recommend you use a new email address for deltachat.

Noted, as well as the other various shortcomings of the way that it works.

And, it being e-mail based, I suppose that likely means it is slower, for whatever impact that has.

But, eh, regardless of what I do, it still sounds interesting.

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Not sure how old that thread about DeltaChat is, but that app is pretty awesome. I am using it with my own self hosted mail server, and it works great with that TextNow sim that gives you free data for maps, email, and rideshare apps.

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Hello phigan!

** On Wednesday 21.01.26 - 17:35, phigan wrote to Adept:

Not sure how old that thread about DeltaChat is, but that app is pretty awesome. I am using it with my own self hosted mail server, and it works great with that TextNow sim that gives you free data for maps, email, and rideshare apps.

I originally posted something about it in January last year.

I still use it, but only on one of my phones with deltachat's
nine.testrun.org server.

Never heard of textnow. Sounds like they operate on pushing ads in the app?


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Never heard of textnow. Sounds like they operate on pushing ads in the
app?

Pretty much. I'm not sure if it's because I've had it a while or what, but I'm not running the app at all, and the SIM still has service. You do have to keep running the app once a week or so to keep your number if you want to do that.. but I don't have it even installed.


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phigan wrote to Adept <=-

Not sure how old that thread about DeltaChat is, but that app is pretty awesome. I am using it with my own self hosted mail server, and it
works great with that TextNow sim that gives you free data for maps, email, and rideshare apps.

That's the one that sends encrypted blobs via email as a transport?
Sounds like a good way of providing encrypted chat without having to
invent a back-end.



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Hello pF!

Not sure how old that thread about DeltaChat is, but that app is pretty
awesome.[...]

That's the one that sends encrypted blobs via email as a transport?
Sounds like a good way of providing encrypted chat without having to
invent a back-end.

The blobs are actual PGP BLOCKS. You can even share the generated keys to anyone else who might like to use them in their own email MTA.


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Ogg wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

That's the one that sends encrypted blobs via email as a transport?
Sounds like a good way of providing encrypted chat without having to
invent a back-end.

The blobs are actual PGP BLOCKS. You can even share the generated keys
to anyone else who might like to use them in their own email MTA.

Interesting. That's an object lesson in building a tool and not
re-inventing the wheel.



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Hello phigan!

** On Thursday 22.01.26 - 15:27, phigan wrote to Ogg:

Never heard of textnow. Sounds like they operate on pushing ads in the
app?

Pretty much. I'm not sure if it's because I've had it a while or what, but I'm not running the app at all, and the SIM still has service. You do have to keep running the app once a week or so to keep your number if you want to do that.. but I don't have it even installed.

My Samsung phone comes with it (or that's what the previous owner installed on it). How can you use textnow without the app? I'm pretty sure calls (and sms) are managed by the app.


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