• KDE Plasma desktop vs. Cinnamon (KUbuntu vs. Linux Mint)

    From Nightfox@21:1/137 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 18:03:15
    I've been primarily a Windows user for many years, though I've also used Linux for quite a while too, for work and sometimes at home. My favorite Linux distro lately has been Linux Mint, as it usually "just works". I've had my main PC at home set up to dual-boot Windows and Linux Mint for a few years, though I had mainly still been using Windows on it.

    I recently started primarily using Linux on my main PC, as there are some things about Windows that have been bugging me: Some personalization chagnes reverting back to stock, and auto-rebooting overnight to install Windows updates if I leave the PC on (I'm pretty sure you can configure Windows to wait to install updates though).

    I have a 4K monitor that I use on my main PC, and although Mint's Cinnamon desktop environment looks fairly good on it, I still thought it could look better. Also, Cinnamon's fractional scaling (although working) is still experimental. I use the factional scaling to scale things up a bit but not too big.

    I did some research on what Linux desktop environments look best on a 4Kq monitor. I kept seeing KDE Plasma recommended, particularly with Wayland (which is a modern replacement for X11, which is designed to perform better and handle modern features better, such as fractional scaling).

    Since I've been used to using Linux Mint lately, I gave KUbuntu a try (Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, and KUbuntu is basically Ubuntu with KDE Plasma). I first installed KUbuntu 25.10 alongside Linux Mint to try them both; I ended up really liking how things look overall with KDE Plasma in KUbuntu, so I decided to fully replace my Linux Mint setup on my main desktop with KUbuntu. So far I'm enjoying it.

    I've heard there are some reasons why people don't really like Snap in Ubuntu; I saw there's a way to disable Snap, which I've done, as well as enabled Flatpak in its software configuration, so that part is basically set up like Linux Mint. But I feel like it might not really matter much in the end.

    As far as running Windows software, I still have my PC set to dual-boot with Windows, so I can still use Windows when needed for certain software. But I've also set up a Windows 11 virtual machine in the Linux setup, and I've installed Wine too, which is able to directly run some Windows software in Linux. There are also other options for making it easier to run Windows software, such as Bottles (which I haven't used much yet) and WinBoat (which looks like it runs a separate Windows instance like a VM but makes it a bit more seamless with Linux).

    Some PC games I like to play even have native Linux ports; also, Steam has made it easy to run some Windows games in Linux.

    Nightfox
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  • From esc@21:3/203 to Nightfox on Friday, January 30, 2026 07:09:55
    I dig kde plasma. It's what I use on all my linux boxes (work and personal). It's really polished and fully featured, and it has updates ship frequently.
    It reminds me of what Windows /could/ have been if they just focused on a consistent user experience instead of trying to pack more features into the
    OS. It's really wonderful IMO.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to esc on Friday, January 30, 2026 08:03:08
    esc wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I dig kde plasma. It's what I use on all my linux boxes (work and personal). It's really polished and fully featured, and it has updates ship frequently. It reminds me of what Windows /could/ have been if
    they just focused on a consistent user experience instead of trying to pack more features into the OS. It's really wonderful IMO.

    I think this is exactly why I've never liked KDE. It reminds me too
    much of ... Windows. I'm using Linux because I don't like Windows, so
    why would I want my Linux to look like Windows? ;-)

    Xfce for me.



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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Gamgee on Friday, January 30, 2026 11:22:40
    I think this is exactly why I've never liked KDE. It reminds me too
    much of ... Windows. I'm using Linux because I don't like Windows, so why would I want my Linux to look like Windows? ;-)

    Xfce for me.

    Agree with this statement.

    I find KDE has to many customization. For me, it drives my OCD a little crazy.

    I'm using XFCE myself too.

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  • From esc@21:3/203 to Gamgee on Friday, January 30, 2026 18:35:16
    I think this is exactly why I've never liked KDE. It reminds me too
    much of ... Windows. I'm using Linux because I don't like Windows, so
    why would I want my Linux to look like Windows? ;-)

    Man, I love me some Windows XP. To me, that's the pinnacle of a user
    interface, I really dig it. I hear you, though.

    I also dig MacOS. I have that on my daily driver. It just feels 'complete' if that makes sense.

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to esc on Friday, January 30, 2026 14:50:23
    Man, I love me some Windows XP. To me, that's the pinnacle of a user interface, I really dig it. I hear you, though.

    Gross. :> I used to work at a job for an ISP and was always fixing XP issues.. I just hate it, for that matter I dislike most windows GUI's.....

    I much prefer mac or a customize linux install.


    I also dig MacOS. I have that on my daily driver. It just feels
    'complete' if that makes sense.

    Agree.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to esc on Friday, January 30, 2026 12:44:45
    Re: KDE Plasma desktop vs. Cinnamon (KUbuntu vs. Linux Mint)
    By: esc to Nightfox on Fri Jan 30 2026 07:09 am

    I dig kde plasma. It's what I use on all my linux boxes (work and personal). It's really polished and fully featured, and it has updates ship frequently.

    Don't the updates depend on the distribution (at least in part) - basically, what updates they decide to make available and when? In many distros I've seen, it seems the software packages aren't always the latest versions.

    Also, recently I heard KDE themselves are working on making their own Linux distro (it's currently available for testing at your own risk). That would probably always include the latest KDE changes right away, which would be interseting.

    It reminds me of what Windows /could/ have been if they
    just focused on a consistent user experience instead of trying to pack more features into the OS. It's really wonderful IMO.

    I don't mind Windows so much, but one thing I don't like about OS user interfaces across the board in the industry is that they've become fairly flat and (IMO) boring since about 2012. I like that the theming engines in the various Linux desktop environments is more pervasive (compared to Windows) and lets you customize the look and feel of everything (window decorations, buttons, checkboxes, sliders, everything) with themes.

    Windows has themes, but it's mainly about colors, desktop background, and maybe a couple other things. Stardock has their WindowBlinds to change the other elements of Windows software, but since windows 8 (or 10?), it doesn't change everything anymore because there's a newer UI engine in Windows that a lot of software is now using, which WindowBlinds apparently is unable to theme. I've noticed a similar thing in Linux too (though less of a problem) where different programs use different toolkits for their UI (such as GTK, Qt, etc.) and there are different themes for each - so you might have some apps with one theme and other apps with a different theme.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Gamgee on Friday, January 30, 2026 12:49:33
    Re: Re: KDE Plasma desktop vs. Cinnamon (KUbuntu vs. Linux Mint)
    By: Gamgee to esc on Fri Jan 30 2026 08:03 am

    I think this is exactly why I've never liked KDE. It reminds me too much of ... Windows. I'm using Linux because I don't like Windows, so why would I want my Linux to look like Windows? ;-)

    Back in my earlier days of using Linux (around 1999-2000 or so), I had read that KDE was meant to be like Windows so that Windows users would have an easier time switching to Linux. I don't think that's really the case anymore.. I feel like KDE Plasma doesn't really resemble Windows anymore in how it's oreganized, or even how it looks.

    The Cinnamon environment (mainly included with Linux Mint) seems to be the one that's meant to be Windows-like these days (I think they even say that in their design philosophy for Cinnamon). That said, I do really like Linux Mint, as it tends to "just work". I've been using Linux Mint for over 10 years now on my secondary PC (though with its Xfce environment, as it was regarded as more lightweight) and haven't really had any significant issues with it at all. I had also dual-booted my main PC with Mint for a little while. I appreciate something that tends to just work without a lot of ahssle.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Gamgee on Friday, January 30, 2026 12:52:38
    Re: Re: KDE Plasma desktop vs. Cinnamon (KUbuntu vs. Linux Mint)
    By: Gamgee to esc on Fri Jan 30 2026 08:03 am

    Xfce for me.

    Also, I like Xfce as well. I like that Xfce seems to have more retro themes that are fairly easy to set up - On my secondary PC, I have a few OS/2 themes, a BeOS/Haiku theme, a Mac OS 9 Platinum theme, and a Mac OS Aqua theme that I cycle through sometimes.

    If you have a 4K monitor though, you may find that you want to use fractional scaling to make text & things a bit bigger so they're easier to read. I believe Xfce can do integer scaling but doesn't have a fractional scaling feature. If you don't scale things up a bit on a 4K monitor, I think things tend to look a bit too small, but even 2x scaling can look a bit too big.

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