Howdy,

I'm going to doing some changes on Hub 3, starting this weekend. Mostly those changes *should* go un-noticed, apart from some polls not being answered.

Clrghouz currently runs in a VM on OVH, but I recently bought a new VM in SSDnodes for 3 years - more memory, less yearly cost, so I'm going to be moving all my OVH workload over to it. I have until Sept to complete it, so I'll do a bit at a time, but starting first with clrghouz.

What will happen, is the IP addresses for clrghouz will change - as long as you are using the nXX,zXX.bbs.dege.au hostname, you shouldnt see any impact. As those IPs get updated, you'll automatically connect to the new host for your mail.

**IF** you are using *clrghouz.bbs.dege.au* as the hostname for any nets you get from me, then please change it today. For FSXnet it should be n3.z21.bbs.dege.au. (All these details are in the web UI). If you are not sure what to change it to, send me a netmail and I'll let you know - but it is in the web UI also.

I will soon also be redirecting the hostname clrghouz.bbs.dege.au to cloudflare, which means your BINKP and EMSI session will *fail*, and the only fix will be to use the nXX.zXX.bbs.dege.au address.

https://clrghouz.bbs.dege.au will still be the valid address to use to manage your FTN settings at clrghouz, so no need to change that (it'll just be going through cloudflare, which might make it a little snappier?).

Any questions, please ask :)


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https://clrghouz.bbs.dege.au will
still be the valid address to use
to manage your FTN settings at
clrghouz, so no need to change
that (it'll just be going through
cloudflare, which might make it a
little snappier?).

Hey Deon,

Just a QQ, is the mail API still going to be at: clrghouz.bbs.dege.au/api/mail?

Thanks!


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Re: Re: Upcoming changes to Hub 3
By: slacker to deon on Thu Jul 02 2026 08:12 pm

Howdy,

Just a QQ, is the mail API still going to be at: clrghouz.bbs.dege.au/api/mail?

Ahh, yes good question...

Yes, it will still be that, since it's delivered over http.

I dont think I've implemented echomail posting have I? (Just looking through my code and I dont see it). Sorry if you've been waiting on me to do that, I've been distracted by other shiny things recently, and the kids...

I need to do some updates to clrghouz after the move, so I'll put this on my list to do, it shouldnt take too much effort since I know I rejigged the backend end to support it.


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Hello deon!

02 Jul 26 10:36, you wrote to all:

Clrghouz currently runs in a VM on OVH, but I recently bought a new VM
in SSDnodes for 3 years - more memory, less yearly cost, so I'm going
to be moving all my OVH workload over to it. I have until Sept to
complete it, so I'll do a bit at a time, but starting first with
clrghouz.

Have you thought about how your going to do backup's and recovery?
They might have great prices/spec's, but not supporting custom iso's is a deal breaker for me.


I just sent them this (Second email to the Sales dept):

Does your system support booting of a custom iso?
ie: I use veeam's backup agent for linux, and to do a bare-metal
restore requires the booting of the recovery iso/cd.

The response:

I am sorry, we do not allow custom ISO or Windows OS at this time.






Vorlon


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Hello deon!

02 Jul 26 10:36, you wrote to all:

Clrghouz currently runs in a VM on OVH, but I recently bought a new VM
in SSDnodes for 3 years - more memory, less yearly cost, so I'm going
to be moving all my OVH workload over to it. I have until Sept to
complete it, so I'll do a bit at a time, but starting first with
clrghouz.

Have you thought about how your going to do backup's and recovery?
They might have great prices/spec's, but not supporting custom iso's is a deal breaker for me.


I just sent them this (Second email to the Sales dept), and in no way did I mention windows at all:

Does your system support booting of a custom iso?
ie: I use veeam's backup agent for linux, and to do a bare-metal
restore requires the booting of the recovery iso/cd.

The response:

I am sorry, we do not allow custom ISO or Windows OS at this time.






Vorlon


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Re: Upcoming changes to Hub 3
By: Vorlon to deon on Fri Jul 03 2026 11:16 am

Howdy,

Have you thought about how your going to do backup's and recovery?
They might have great prices/spec's, but not supporting custom iso's is a deal breaker for me.

Yup, the same way I do it now.

The host for me is an an ephemerial dumb host - I remove everything that I can, and pretty much only have docker running.

All the apps are a docker image - mostly a reverse proxy, a php server, postfix, postgesql etc....

The docker apps, I built in my devops at home - so I can reproduce all applications easily. Thus, the (remote) backup I need is just the data and configuration - with databases being a dump each night, and a filesystem backup which captures configurations (config rarely changes) and any file level data...

My go to tool is restic, I've been using it for years, which stores all my backups in my s3 server at home.

Rebuilding a failed server would be a PITA, but its essentially install a new host, add docker, a file restore, a docker run and a db restore ...


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Hello deon!

03 Jul 26 08:05, you wrote to slacker:

Just a QQ, is the mail API still going to be at:
clrghouz.bbs.dege.au/api/mail?

Ahh, yes good question...
Yes, it will still be that, since it's delivered over http.

BTW, what is this API for, what does it do? Is there any readme or spec?

Jegor

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hub 3
By: Jegor to deon on Tue Jul 07 2026 01:57 am

Howdy,

Just a QQ, is the mail API still going to be at:
clrghouz.bbs.dege.au/api/mail?

Ahh, yes good question...
Yes, it will still be that, since it's delivered over http.

BTW, what is this API for, what does it do? Is there any readme or spec?

I started building that you could get mail (packets) using a HTTP API call.

https://clrghouz.bbs.dege.au/docs/api

You can get echomail and netmail via the API, the packet format will be as configured in your BBS (system) profile.

Posting netmail via the API works, but I havent implemented posting echomail.

To use it, you'll need to create an API key, which you can do on your BBS (system) profile. That key will be used to receive and post as that BBS.


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Ahh, yes good question...

Yes, it will still be that, since
it's delivered over http.

Ok cool! Thanks for confirming!

I dont think I've implemented
echomail posting have I? (Just
looking through my
code and I dont see it). Sorry if
you've been waiting on me to do
that, I've been distracted by
other shiny things recently, and
the kids...

No worries! I'm currently only using it for sending/receiving netmail. IIRC, there was an option to receive echomail in the GET endpoint, but I don't recall anything to send echomail.

Thanks again!


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Re: Upcoming changes to Hub 3
By: deon to All on Thu Jul 02 2026 10:36 am

Howdy,

Clrghouz currently runs in a VM on OVH, but I recently bought a new VM in SSDnodes for 3 years - more memory, less yearly cost, so I'm going to be moving all my OVH workload over to it. I have until Sept to complete it, so I'll do a bit at a time, but starting first with clrghouz.

So the move to SSDnodes hasnt been as successful as I would have liked. I'm convinced that the VPS that I've got is on a host that is overcommitted, and as a result its been affecting the performance of clrghouz.

I moved clrghouz over last weekend and have been logging support tickets because of the sluggish performance of the VPS. I've noticed some packets, which would take 2s to build on the old server, have sometimes been taking over 2mins to build on the new server. Some of you may have noticed timeouts as a result.

I've also noticed a few times that when I check back on the host, that clrghouz has been killed, the server has been rebooted, or the load average >150. The logs show that the host is stealing back memory, even though I've only been using about 8G of my 64...

So I'm not happy, and I'm moving clrghouz back to my server at home. It's running on a CM5 now, and while it is slow, it is running better than on the SSDnode host. :(

As an upside, its given me some areas to look at to improve the query performance, so I'll be focusing on that over the next few days to improve it's performance. Bear with me, but hopefully mail will be flowing uninterrupted soon. :)


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On 24 Jul 2026, deon said the following...

So I'm not happy, and I'm moving clrghouz back to my server at home. It's running on a CM5 now, and while it is slow, it is running better than on the SSDnode host. :(

start asking around about where people colo servers? maybe you can split something with someone?

a lot of that stuff is dead now because of VPSes but for example, i had a mid-tower pc i slapped together that i shipped across the state and had colocated for a couple years.. one of those things that felt an awful lot like the owners used to be pretty chill until that industry blew up.

still have a LUG or something? maybe they'll have some ideas

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