• proxmox server hardware

    From Granville Errol Casey, Jr@1337:3/194 to All on Wednesday, August 21, 2024 09:48:48
    What type of computer/servers are you using for proxmox server configurations?

    I have not used proxmox. Wondering how much it would cost to invest to get a reasonable setup for homelab use? Would 32G of Ram be a reasonable start for RAM? What size disk ?
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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Wednesday, August 21, 2024 16:24:38
    On 21 Aug 2024, Granville Errol Casey, Jr said the following...

    What type of computer/servers are you using for proxmox server configurations?

    I have not used proxmox. Wondering how much it would cost to invest to
    get a reasonable setup for homelab use? Would 32G of Ram be a reasonable start for RAM? What size disk ?

    Hi Granville,

    32GB ram isn't too much if you intend on making VM's for certain projects. If you give each VM 4GB and 1 CPU core, that would allow you to have approx 8 VM's minus the fact that the host OS needs some resources too (assuming you have 32GB ram AND 8 core
    cpu). Each vm you'd probably want to allocate at least 20GB-32GB to be safe, so at least 256GB of dedicated storage just for the VM's will be needed also.

    I have had a lot of joy working with Dell PowerEdge R series rackmounted servers both at home and at work. At home I have a couple of the Dell R620's (2x 16 core cpu, 320GB ram) that are in a proxmox cluster, and at work in my rack I have a Dell R820 (2x 32 core, 428GB ram) and these are great work horses.

    You can pick up old Dell R620's on eBay fairly reasonably nowadays, and could build yourself a good rack for not too much, I like Dell's as the iDRAC is imho the best remote maintenance system on servers I've used. Dell's are robust, and you could do a lot worse.

    If you don't need so much power, you could use a couple Intel NUCs perhaps, it would depend on what you wish to use the home-lab for, and believe me, once you start making VM's for whatever, more ideas come and soon you run out of cpu or ram and need more =)

    Sounds like you have fun times ahead, I love having a home-lab, and you will too.


    Hope this helps =)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Wednesday, August 21, 2024 21:03:33
    Re: proxmox server hardware
    By: Granville Errol Casey, Jr to All on Wed Aug 21 2024 09:48 am

    I have not used proxmox. Wondering how much it would cost to invest to get a reasonable setup for homelab use? Would 32G of Ram be a reasonable start for RAM? What size disk ?


    Depends on what you want to use it for. I have my BBS, a small AD test environment, a handful of LXC containers and an Ubuntu VM acting as a Docker host running Portainer.

    All of this is on an old Thinkpad with a mobile 6th gen i7 and, first, 16GB of RAM, then 24, and now 32.

    I put a 2TB SSD in it to host the VMs and have backups and ISO images on an NFS share coming from a Synology NAS.

    What I love about Proxmox is its wide range of hardware support (it's just Debian, QEMU and KVM) and lowresource requirements. I barely hit the wall with my tiny little lab. You can go pretty small on memory and disk when you choose to, and running apps in LXC containers saves even more on resources.

    I think the ultimate little lab would 3 USFF desktops with 8 or better yet 16GB of RAM set up in a cluster. Proxmox can move VMs dynamically, even moving VMs off of a failed cluster member.
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  • From claw@1337:3/177 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Thursday, August 22, 2024 07:52:39
    On 21 Aug 2024, Granville Errol Casey, Jr said the following...

    What type of computer/servers are you using for proxmox server configurations?

    I have not used proxmox. Wondering how much it would cost to invest to
    get a reasonable setup for homelab use? Would 32G of Ram be a reasonable start for RAM? What size disk ?
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    Check out the Dell R815 on ebay you can generally get one with 64 cores and 100+g of ram around $200 - $300. They come without drives most of the time and will need around another $100 - $200 in drives. Your homelab expierence will be awesome!

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to claw on Thursday, August 22, 2024 06:43:00
    claw wrote to Granville Errol Casey, Jr <=-

    Check out the Dell R815 on ebay you can generally get one with 64 cores and 100+g of ram around $200 - $300. They come without drives most of
    the time and will need around another $100 - $200 in drives. Your
    homelab expierence will be awesome!

    I'd love a proper server for my homelab - except it's running in my
    office! Way too much noise.



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  • From claw@1337:3/177 to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, August 23, 2024 07:53:34
    On 22 Aug 2024, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...
    I'd love a proper server for my homelab - except it's running in my office! Way too much noise.

    Mine sits right behind me in my office and I work from home. Its pretty quiet.

    Do you keep your home air conditioned?

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to claw on Friday, August 23, 2024 06:55:00
    claw wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Mine sits right behind me in my office and I work from home. Its pretty quiet.

    Do you keep your home air conditioned?

    No, I live on the california coast. We get fog in the mornings and fog
    in the evenings. Keeps things pretty cool.



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  • From Arelor@1337:3/191 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Sunday, August 25, 2024 15:11:31
    Re: proxmox server hardware
    By: Granville Errol Casey, Jr to All on Wed Aug 21 2024 09:48 am

    What type of computer/servers are you using for proxmox server configurations?

    I have not used proxmox. Wondering how much it would cost to invest to get a reasonable setup for homelab use? Would 32G of Ram be a reasonable start for RAM? What size disk ?

    It depends on what you want to do.

    Proxmox has RAM optimization tricks bolted in so a small home server will do fine with 16 or even 8 GB of RAM. For a small deployment you can get a cheap Poweredge and find yourself working with a 600 bucks investment.

    If you want to run in the range of 15-20 VMs or containers, you are looking at 32 GB or so as a target.

    My suggestion is to buy a cheap Poweredge and add RAM and drives if you notice you are falling short.


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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Sunday, August 25, 2024 20:27:12
    What type of computer/servers are you using for proxmox server configurations?

    I have not used proxmox. Wondering how much it would cost to invest to
    get a reasonable setup for homelab use? Would 32G of Ram be a reasonable start for RAM? What size disk ?

    I have a Proxmox cluster that hosts all my production websites, BBSes, and self-hosted thingies...

    A Dell Poweredge r330 w/ 64GB RAM running all my VMs/LXC containers

    A Dell Poweredge r320 w/ 144GB RAM running TrueNAS SCALE

    A Raspberry Pi 4 w/ 8GB RAM as a quorum node only

    The r330 has around 8TB of HDDs; 2 1TB SSDs for the OS / fast VMs and 6 1TB HDDs for storage

    The r320 has 73TB; 1 x 1TB SSD for the OS and 4 x 18TB HDDs for storage

    The RPi has a 16GB SD Card for Proxmox only

    ... the quorum node just makes sure I always have a... quorum - regardless if either of the main systems have failures, my cluster can continue on and offer failover for both main nodes.

    I love Proxmox and think its the best way to homelab in 2o24...



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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN on Sunday, August 25, 2024 20:31:39
    You can pick up old Dell R620's on eBay fairly reasonably nowadays, and could build yourself a good rack for not too much, I like Dell's as the iDRAC is imho the best remote maintenance system on servers I've used. Dell's are robust, and you could do a lot worse.

    I also love the Dell Poweredge platform. I'd suggest r330 - r730xd's as a baseline for whats 'really usable' in 2o24, but I've been surprised by how well a r320 runs my NAS - in fact, the 11th gen r320 has a few options that are BETTER than the 12th gen r330; they can accept 192GB RAM instead of the 12th gen 64GB limit - the max CPU is only $20-30 on eBay - 10 cores/20 threads - more than the r330...

    So I guess the rx20 series ARE still very usable - but the step to 12th gen does bring more CPU and faster RAM. Both are fairly doable from a price standpoint - I am drooling for a Dell r730xd - 12 3.5" bays, but I wonder if the r720xd offers more RAM and cheaper components much like the r320/r330 does.

    iDRAC is awesome and even if the hardware is sans license, they can be had for $20-30... my r320 is out of license, so I need to make a purchase soon - I regret it everytime I need a terminal/console.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to paulie420 on Monday, August 26, 2024 08:20:00
    paulie420 wrote to Granville Errol Casey, Jr <=-

    A Raspberry Pi 4 w/ 8GB RAM as a quorum node only

    That's a GREAT idea! I've played with clustering two servers but didn't
    have a third for a quorum. I've got a Pi laying around that's too small
    to serve VMs but could participate in a cluster just fine.





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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to paulie420 on Monday, August 26, 2024 08:23:00
    paulie420 wrote to MeaTLoTioN <=-

    iDRAC is awesome and even if the hardware is sans license, they can be
    had for $20-30... my r320 is out of license, so I need to make a
    purchase soon - I regret it everytime I need a terminal/console.

    I thought there was some base functionality with iDRAC that was free -
    unless you can buy a lifetime license at purchase time?

    My company had 2 R430s and 2 R610s that I naver paid a license for
    iDRAC, but it always seemed to be there. The R430s fell off of VMWare
    support and I was dying to throw Proxmox on them, but got the
    thumbs-down from our ops director. He was firmly in the "no open source" old-school.



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  • From Granville Errol Casey, Jr@1337:3/194 to paulie420 on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 18:06:46
    Re: Re: proxmox server hardware
    By: paulie420 to MeaTLoTioN on Sun Aug 25 2024 08:31 pm

    You can pick up old Dell R620's on eBay fairly reasonably nowadays, and
    could build yourself a good rack for not too much, I like Dell's as the
    iDRAC is imho the best remote maintenance system on servers I've used.
    Dell's are robust, and you could do a lot worse.

    I also love the Dell Poweredge platform. I'd suggest r330 - r730xd's as a baseline for whats 'really usable' in 2o24, but I've been surprised by how well a r320 runs my NAS - in fact, the 11th gen r320 has a few options that are BETTER than the 12th gen r330; they can accept 192GB RAM instead of the 12th gen 64GB limit - the max CPU is only $20-30 on eBay - 10 cores/20 threads - more than the r330...

    So I guess the rx20 series ARE still very usable - but the step to 12th gen does bring more CPU and faster RAM. Both are fairly doable from a price standpoint - I am drooling for a Dell r730xd - 12 3.5" bays, but I wonder if the r720xd offers more RAM and cheaper components much like the r320/r330 does.

    You have an amazing setup with all these dell servers. I bought a T1000 Solaris Server on ebay. It worked but man I couldn't use it because of the FAN. It would only shutoff during power reset, and come right back on 100% almost all the time. The firmware didn't support changing speed until later versions. That CPU had lots of cores like 128 !

    I eventually just put it at the street to be trashed.

    I don't have room for a rack, nor rack server. Would be scare of above event also. I see the prices are reasonable. I wonder if a NUC or small box like a NUC could be used with 32G to start off with proxbox, and then by another box when more ram or storage was needed for more vms, and allow clustering.

    I think at 32G NUC is like 500-600 at bit more pricey than the used hardware you are recommending; I appreciate the input and will keep the emails in case I change my mind about "rack server".

    Still in the negoitation stage with my money manager (wife) LOL
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 17:09:15
    Re: Re: proxmox server hardware
    By: Granville Errol Casey, Jr to paulie420 on Tue Aug 27 2024 06:06 pm

    I don't have room for a rack, nor rack server. Would be scare of above event also. I see the prices are reasonable. I wonder if a NUC or small box like a NUC could be used with 32G to start off with proxbox, and then by another bo

    I think the way to go with Proxmox is to start with a single USFF server with 16 GB of RAM. When you need more RAM, buy another USFF server, cluster them, and move servers around. When you get to number 3, add high-availability.

    Not sure about storage needs for HA and Proxmox, I'm not there yet.

    Paulie420 suggested using a Raspberry Pi as a 3rd node as well.

    Using USFFs is cheap when you shop around, they don't take up much room, are relatively quiet and easy to cluster.
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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 20:20:09
    I also love the Dell Poweredge platform.

    You have an amazing setup with all these dell servers. I bought a T1000

    I don't have room for a rack, nor rack server. Would be scare of above event also. I see the prices are reasonable. I wonder if a NUC or small box like a NUC could be used with 32G to start off with proxbox, and
    then by another box when more ram or storage was needed for more vms,
    and allow clustering.

    So - I literally don't even have a rack! My servers, two 1U machines... an old Dell tower as a PBS... a BASIC switch [that I'm upgrading ATM] and a couple other small devices; RPi 4, HUE Hub, etc - all live under my spare bedroom bed.

    I route the ethernet and all connections and everything lays on the wood floor. Temps are ok, and the sound isn't insane - just shut the door... and, its warm in the winter!

    Point is, you can make a server room out of whatever you have/want;

    I think at 32G NUC is like 500-600 at bit more pricey than the used hardware you are recommending; I appreciate the input and will keep the emails in case I change my mind about "rack server".

    You can stick with those NUCs that you like - run what ya brung and create the homelab that works for you!



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  • From Granville Errol Casey, Jr@1337:3/194 to paulie420 on Wednesday, August 28, 2024 09:26:29
    Re: Re: proxmox server hardware
    By: paulie420 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Tue Aug 27 2024 08:20 pm

    I route the ethernet and all connections and everything lays on the wood floor. Temps are ok, and the sound isn't insane - just shut the door... and, its warm in the winter!

    Sounds awesome. And kinda like my area, unfortunately i have 5 dogs and I have an elder one that likes to lay at my feet. Within the 1st week of getting a secondary router, he pulled it down and broke one of the antennas! But it is still working thankfully. Need to work on securing my ethernet cables better, so he cannot put pressure on them.

    Have you made images of "original" OS, before installing proxmox? I don't have a windows machine; but it looks like most of the NUC and USFF servers have windows on them. Can I image them in a way, to use the image in a vm . I believe proxbox installs as a debian installation right ?
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Wednesday, August 28, 2024 06:53:00
    Granville Errol Casey, Jr wrote to paulie420 <=-

    Have you made images of "original" OS, before installing proxmox? I
    don't have a windows machine; but it looks like most of the NUC and
    USFF servers have windows on them.

    A lot of machines nowadays have the Windows key stored somewhere, so
    you don't need to keep the original install. Download the ISO from
    Microsoft, install from that, and it'll read the Window key
    automatically.

    the image in a vm . I believe proxbox installs as a debian installation right ?

    Yes - Proxmox is essentially Debian, kvm and QEMU with some other
    features and a nice GUI.

    There's a process called P2V (Physical to Virtual) where you can copy a physical machine to a virtual guest:

    https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Advanced_Migration_Techniques_to_Proxmox_VE




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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, August 31, 2024 15:31:32
    On 26 Aug 2024, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

    I thought there was some base functionality with iDRAC that was free - unless you can buy a lifetime license at purchase time?

    I think you're right, my PowerEdge's iDRAC's all work and I haven't paid for a licence, I think they're lifetime IIRC

    My company had 2 R430s and 2 R610s that I naver paid a license for
    iDRAC, but it always seemed to be there. The R430s fell off of VMWare support and I was dying to throw Proxmox on them, but got the
    thumbs-down from our ops director. He was firmly in the "no open source" old-school.

    Oh no, your ops director needs re-educating haha. Open source ftw!

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to paulie420 on Saturday, August 31, 2024 15:34:15
    On 27 Aug 2024, paulie420 said the following...

    So - I literally don't even have a rack! My servers, two 1U machines...
    an old Dell tower as a PBS... a BASIC switch [that I'm upgrading ATM]
    and a couple other small devices; RPi 4, HUE Hub, etc - all live under
    my spare bedroom bed.

    Oof the dust =)

    I route the ethernet and all connections and everything lays on the wood floor. Temps are ok, and the sound isn't insane - just shut the door... and, its warm in the winter!

    Oh yeah free heating, sorta haha

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  • From Granville Errol Casey, Jr@1337:3/194 to All on Saturday, August 31, 2024 13:07:09
    Re: Re: proxmox server hardware
    By: MeaTLoTioN to paulie420 on Sat Aug 31 2024 03:34 pm

    Got an Intel NUC I7 11th generation with 32G ram and 1TB

    Have gotten Proxmox installed and installed ubuntu desktop and windows 11 successfully at VMs!

    Early birthday present from my wife. Birthday is on the 4th of Sept.

    So now I can probably get those applications, I could not get to work on my Pi! on windows (yuck windows).

    My amateur radio call sign is KD4IHW; use to say it stood for "I hate windows" on my commute home from work; if I was working late then it was "I hate work".

    Thanks for all the input. I think this is a great start, and then I'll probably go with some refurb server/sff desktop as other servers for proxmox.

    Do any of you have a NAS device? I assume not for those of you that have TB disks in your servers (paulie! :-) ; you have disk right on those beefy servers.
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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN on Saturday, August 31, 2024 19:34:32
    I think you're right, my PowerEdge's iDRAC's all work and I haven't paid for a licence, I think they're lifetime IIRC

    On both my servers, bought privately so prolly a different license, iDRAC worked for some time but then pointed me to buy a license. One is iDRAC 8 and one is iDRAC 9 - at any rate, you can find a cheap sub-$20 iDRAC license all over eBay... felt a bit sketch, but worked for me both times...



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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN on Saturday, August 31, 2024 19:36:31
    So - I literally don't even have a rack! My servers, two 1U machines. an old Dell tower as a PBS... a BASIC switch [that I'm upgrading ATM] and a couple other small devices; RPi 4, HUE Hub, etc - all live unde my spare bedroom bed.

    Oof the dust =)

    So - at the old house I just had my r330 sitting on the hardware floor in a closet; didn't see much crazy dust in it when I do my maintenance, but I'm gonna keep an eye on both in the future...

    I really wanna find a NEAT/INTERESTING rack if I can - in my head I was thinking about some rack that mounted the servers at a 45deg angle - or 30deg... or mounting them directly to a wall somehow.

    Wheres all the alternative rack systems?! I only use 1U servers so I don't need something huge - BUT those ones that hang on the wall seem too short for PowerEdge systems.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to paulie420 on Saturday, August 31, 2024 22:05:22
    Re: Re: proxmox server hardware
    By: paulie420 to MeaTLoTioN on Sat Aug 31 2024 07:36 pm

    I really wanna find a NEAT/INTERESTING rack if I can - in my head I was thinking about some rack that mounted the servers at a 45deg angle - or 30deg... or mounting them directly to a wall somehow.

    I've seen servers attached to the wall with brackets before, it's a nice look if you only have one server.

    I'm considering mounting my servers vertically, I have a storage space with narrow (22" deep) but tall shelves, figure I could cut a 1u slot and "hang" them from the top shelf.
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  • From Bucko@1337:3/102 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Sunday, September 01, 2024 07:00:57
    On 31 Aug 2024, Granville Errol Casey, Jr said the following...

    Do any of you have a NAS device? I assume not for those of you that have TB disks in your servers (paulie! :-) ; you have disk right on those
    beefy servers.

    I use 2 NAS' a real Synology for my home use and a Xpenology for my BBS'. The Xpenology spins up from a Proxmox VM..


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to MeaTLoTioN on Saturday, August 31, 2024 08:40:00
    MeaTLoTioN wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    My company had 2 R430s and 2 R610s that I naver paid a license for
    iDRAC, but it always seemed to be there. The R430s fell off of VMWare support and I was dying to throw Proxmox on them, but got the
    thumbs-down from our ops director. He was firmly in the "no open source" old-school.

    Oh no, your ops director needs re-educating haha. Open source ftw!

    It felt very 1990s, that director who reads Datamation magazine and
    talks to you about client/server architectures.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to Bucko on Sunday, September 01, 2024 08:23:00
    Bucko wrote to Granville Errol Casey, Jr <=-

    Do any of you have a NAS device? I assume not for those of you that have TB disks in your servers (paulie! :-) ; you have disk right on those
    beefy servers.

    I use 2 NAS' a real Synology for my home use and a Xpenology for my
    BBS'. The Xpenology spins up from a Proxmox VM..

    My Synology goes EOL sometime early next year. Actually, it went EOL a
    while ago - it's a DS1010+ that was supposed to stop with DSM5, but
    with a few tweaks to configs, it now thinks it's a DS1511. I figure
    when they stop updating DSM6, I'll just keep it off the internet.

    I'm paranoid about it dying - it's close to 10 years old, if not older.
    The drives are fine, but the motherboard and power supply are more my
    concern. I try to keep it cool, have spare fans if needed, replaced the
    thermal paste and keep it dust-free.

    I really need to bite the bullet, buy a new NAS, replace comcast with
    AT&T fiber (with a decent upload speed and no bandwidth caps) and sync
    it to the cloud.

    I could probably do without it, but it's nice having an NFS server that
    Proxmox can talk to, that can stream video to my TVs, and back up my
    PCs to one place...




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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to paulie420 on Monday, September 02, 2024 10:24:00
    On 31 Aug 2024, paulie420 said the following...

    I really wanna find a NEAT/INTERESTING rack if I can - in my head I was thinking about some rack that mounted the servers at a 45deg angle - or 30deg... or mounting them directly to a wall somehow.

    I wouldn't if they have any spinning disks in, disks like to be on the level or 90 degrees, any other angle would prolly shorten the lifespan of them, just thinking gyroscopically.

    Wheres all the alternative rack systems?! I only use 1U servers so I
    don't need something huge - BUT those ones that hang on the wall seem
    too short for PowerEdge systems.

    Yeah my poweredge's are all like 19" deep or something crazy, you have to get deep deep racks to house them. I went with an open frame type rack (no closed in sides. You can prolly get away with a quarter height full depth rack but you might wanna expand so I would suggest at least a half height full depth.

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  • From dozo@1337:1/117 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Monday, September 02, 2024 19:26:43
    Do any of you have a NAS device? I assume not for those of you that have TB disks in your servers (paulie! :-) ; you have disk right on those
    beefy servers.

    I'm using a Synology NAS that's almost 10 years old. Still works well and comes with good add-ons. I use it with HyperBackup to backup off-site (to a Backblaze S3 bucket). If it dies, I will buy a Synology again, hands down.
    Disks are still great, it's more about the PSU and such that might wear down.

    Cheers,

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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, September 02, 2024 12:41:52
    I'm considering mounting my servers vertically, I have a storage space with narrow (22" deep) but tall shelves, figure I could cut a 1u slot
    and "hang" them from the top shelf.

    Yea - I was considering something like that too, but on the wall. Problem is, I've found that while it isn't a LOT when you need to inspect the front display of the server you have to be able to get to it...

    I thought about mounting 'holders' on the studs and slotting the r330 ears around them; kinda waist high so I CAN see the front displays and still get to the wiring... one day I just need to get a rack and bite the bullet - I have a homelab, theres no hiding it. :P



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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN on Monday, September 02, 2024 12:44:01
    I wouldn't if they have any spinning disks in, disks like to be on the level or 90 degrees, any other angle would prolly shorten the lifespan
    of them, just thinking gyroscopically.

    Ahh - thats a super 'duh' point. Ever held a HDD and moved it in space while spinning??? You can feel yer point. :P

    Yeah my poweredge's are all like 19" deep or something crazy, you have
    to get deep deep racks to house them. I went with an open frame type
    rack (no closed in sides. You can prolly get away with a quarter height full depth rack but you might wanna expand so I would suggest at least a half height full depth.

    Yep - gonna have to just get a normal rack at some point and realize that theres no hiding it. FOR NOW the under-bed setup is working nicely but its like the last time it will be feasible as I add another 1U switch and whatnot; its time. :P



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  • From deon@1337:2/101 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Wednesday, September 04, 2024 16:05:30
    Re: Re: proxmox server hardware
    By: Granville Errol Casey, Jr to All on Sat Aug 31 2024 01:07 pm

    Howdy,

    Got an Intel NUC I7 11th generation with 32G ram and 1TB

    Yeah, I have a NUC too, running ESXi and a handful of VMs. Love the fact that its small...

    Do any of you have a NAS device? I assume not for those of you that have TB disks in your servers (paulie! :-) ; you have disk right on those beefy servers.

    I do, I have used QNAPs for years, so my latest nas is a QNAP 664 (or something like that). I dont actually run the QNAP software - I'm running truenas on it.


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